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When? Started: 1993 Who? Started with staff and friends from U H S, Chester. Organiser: Martyn Harris We walk every Wednesday and Saturdays, New Years day and May Day. How many walk? Walks take place as long as there are at least 2 wanting to walk on that day. More walk on a Wednesday than on a Saturday. Most ever: 29. Current group size walking: 2-7 in mid-week and 2-4 on Saturday. Where do we walk? Saturday: Anywhere in North and Mid-Wales, Peak District, Shropshire and the Long Mynd and as far North as the Trough of Bowland. Thursday: Anywhere within about 40 miles of Chester. Type of walk: Distance: 6 – 14 miles (but usually under 10 miles). Climb: up to 4000’ (but usually very much less!). People involved on walks in 2024:- Martyn Harris, Fran Murphy, Sue and Michel Pelissier, Mike Dodd, David Savage,, Ed Meads, Nigel and Elaine Taylor, Winston Feather.

Monday 28 August 2023

Walks and Dates August 2023


 Latest Information About Harris Hikers from 23rd March 2023.
After much discussion between group members, those present decided to follow DS’s suggestion that “Short walks with an option of a meal at a nearby venue” should take place on the fifth Wednesday in a month, and members of the group would take it in turns to plan the walk and venue.
There are only two such Wednesdays left in 2023.
 August 30th* and November 29th
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It was also agreed that Wednesday Walks should in the main be walks of around 8 miles with no more than about 1200’ of climb. If proposed walks exceed these suggestions routes should have obvious short cuts to reduce distance and / or climb involved.
It was also agreed that each month a different member of the group should plan the walk.
This walk should be for the Wednesday in the month and that would include the “Short Walk and Meal Option” on the fifth Wednesday.
In order to include that walk in the monthly “Dates and Walks Post", details of the walk need to be sent to me by 15th of the previous month.
Wherever possible I would like people to let me know of their intention to walk or not to walk by Monday afternoon/early evening prior to the walk on Wednesday. There isn’t an issue with last minute cancellations for any reason. This happens anyway when adverse weather is forecast at the last minute.
Where the “Short Walk and Meal” is concerned, the person planning the walk and meal should be contacted directly and informed of theirr intentions as soon as you have made your decision.
Suggestions for Wednesday Walks and Saturday Walks are always welcome.
Remember to let me know that you plan to walk so that it becomes easier to arrange car sharing. in addition it helps me to know how many route maps I need to bring and on special occasions how many pieces of fruit cake or treats will be needed.
Letting me know that you won't be walking is just as important otherwise I am left guessing as to how many maps to run off and invariably I end up printing too many!
Wednesday 2nd August 2023.
The Environs of Hawarden and Hawarden Park.
Distance: 4-5 miles. Climb: 440'.
Start: Tinkersdale Car Park, Hawarden. Grid ref: SJ315656.
At the fountain, take the A550 southward. The car park is on the left.
Leave Chester at 09-00.
This is a walk suggested by DS as a walk suitable for getting the legs going if you
haven't done much walking recently.
It is the same walk that we did twelve months ago, so most of the group will remember it.
Last time we exended the walk a little by going into the grounds of Hawarden Park.
Some of the paths can be quite muddy after rain.
Those planning to walk: Martyn, David S,
Those not walking: Mike, Sue and Michel, Ed, Nigel.
Saturday 5th August 2023.
No planned walk.
Weather forecast is horrendous.
Those planning to walk: Martyn,
Those not walking: Mike, .
Wednesday 9th August 2023.
An Alternative Ysceifiog, Lixwm and Nannerch Round.
Distance: 7-8 miles. Climb: 950'.
Start: Roadside parking next to the Play Area in Ysceifiog.Grid ref: SJ15217152.
Leave Chester at 09-00 a.m.
Those planning to walk: Martyn, David S, Ed .
Those not walking: Mike, Fran, Nigel, Sue and Michel 
This is another opportunity to use to use Ysceifiog Footpath 188, and support the  locals that have campaigned for years to get it recognised as a Right of Way.
This a shorter version of the walk I did with Nigel a few weeks ago.
Much of the walk is one we have done several times in the past, and starts by heading northward via Ysceifiog Lake towards Babell as far as Waen Isaf. after taking a path eastward  we will pick up a minor road southward towards Lixwm. Ysceifiog Footpath 188 is just West of Lixwm and goes past Tan-yr-onen and Llwyn-drain to Pen-ffynnon-ycyff.   Nannerch is our next objective where we pick up a track leading to Bryn Rug and a minor road past Ysceifiog Fisheries.
After carefully crossing the A541 we will return to Ysceifiog via Coed y Llan and Ysceifiog Church.
Saturday 12th August 2023.
Planned walk will be posted soon.
Those planning to walk: Martyn, Ed
Those not walking: Mike, .
Wednesday 16th August 2023.
A Great Orme Walk in Search of Siver studded blues!
Postponed until September.
Distance: 8 miles. It can be easily be shorted or extended on the day to suit the needs of the group.
Climb: 500'-1000', depending on the route we take.
Start at Llandudno West shore. Roadside parking near the boating lake. Grid ref: SH771820.
Leave Chester at 08-40 a.m.
Those planning to walk: Martyn,Ed, Nigel, Fran.
Those not walking: Mike. David S., Sue and Michel, .
We will probably start by heading up Marine Drive and taking the Monks' Path upto the plateau. Following the paths on the north west side of the Great Orme. After visiting the summit trig point we will probably head for Happy Valley for lunch. At lunch we can decide if we want to return to the West shore via the invalids' terrace or return to the summit and drop down the zig-zag steps. 
This another opportunty to look for the Silver studded blue.
We will probably miss out the trig point, unless any of the group wishes to use the facilities at the summit.
New walk for 16th August 2023.
A Linear Walk from Corwen to Llidiat-y-Parc via Moel Fferna.
Distance: 10 miles. Climb: 1500'.
Start: A long lay-by 1/4 mile West of Llidiart-y-Parc: SJ118433.
Leave Chester at 09-00 (08-15) if we decide to use the bus to Corwen from Llidiart-y-Parc.
This is a linear walk, so we will need to have sufficient cars to leave at least one at the start, and take everyone to Corwen, the start of the walk. The easiest option is to take enough cars to be able to leave at least one car in the layby and have sufficient cars to transport everyone to Corwen.
It is possible to use public transport, but that would probably mean leaving Chester at about 08-15 to make sure that we didn't miss the 09-45 bus to Corwen.
This walk is taken from Dave Berry's booklet " Walks Around the Berwyn Mountains and the Ceiriog Valley".
Those planning to walk: Martyn, Ed, Nigel, Fran . 
Those not walking: Mike, David S., Sue and Michel, .
The walk is described as a wlk for experienced walkers only. It features the North Berwyn Way to Moel Fferna. After following the River Dee past Llangar Church to Cynwyd, the route climbs steadily up a wooded valley and through a forest before crossing moorland to the top of Moel Fferna. Some of the routes up Moel Fferna have not been to our liking, so it will be interesting to explore this new route. On a good day the views from Moel Fferna can be be superb.
The descent of Moel Ferna to Llidiat-y-Parc is the most direct route, and one that we are familiar with, having followed it many times.
Saturday 19th August 2023.
Around Minera Mountain.
Postponed due to the weather forecast of gale force winds.
Distance: 7-8 miles. Climb: 1000'.
Start: Minera Lead Mine Centre Car park. grid ref: SJ276509.
Leave Chester at 09-00 a.m.
Those planning to walk: Martyn, 
Those not walking: Mike
This walk is a modified walk initially taken from Dave Berry's book "Walks Around Ruabon and Hope Mountain". The walk is described as being quite demanding, especially on the open access moorland. A walk for experienced walkers only.
We have done this walk several times now and haven't always found it easy finding the path from Ty Hir. This time we will miss out Ty Hir and the difficult boggy moorland part of the walk
Instead we will take the path on the west side of the large quarry that leads to the world's End to Minera Road.
After visiting the trig point on Esclusam Mountain, we will drop down onto the Fron Deg path over Minera Mountain.
At Fron Deg we will head norhward on a path that leads eventually to New Brighton and a path into the Minera Lead Mines Country Park.
Wednesday 23rd August 2023.
The Spinnies and the Penrhyn Castle Coastal Path
Distance: 6-7 miles. Climb: 500'.
Start: Large layby on the Tal-y-Bont to Bangor Road Grid ref: SH 6114 7104. This is east of the road that is signposted to The Spinnies Nature Reserve.
Leave Chester at 09-00.
Those planning to walk: Martyn, Ed .
Those not walking: Mike, Sue and Michel, Fran, David S. 
This walk will explore the recently opened Wales Coastal Path that goes through the grounds of Penrhyn Castle and the return route will probably be along the original coastal path route. 
Bring binoculars with you a we will probable call in at the The Spinnies Nature Reserve to see if the Kingfishers are around.
High tide is around 14-30, but it is only about 8.1 m, o mos of the waders will probably be a good way off shore by the time we get there.
If you are a National Trust Member bring your Membership Card with you in case we decide to go into Penrhyn Castle.
Saturday 27th August 2023.
Around Minera Mountain.
Postponed
Distance: 7-8 miles. Climb: 1000'.
Start: Minera Lead Mine Centre Car park. grid ref: SJ276509.
Leave Chester at 09-00 a.m.
Those planning to walk: Martyn, 
Those not walking: Mike
This walk is a modified walk initially taken from Dave Berry's book "Walks Around Ruabon and Hope Mountain". The walk is described as being quite demanding, especially on the open access moorland. A walk for experienced walkers only.
We have done this walk several times now and haven't always found it easy finding the path from Ty Hir. This time we will miss out Ty Hir and the difficult boggy moorland part of the walk.
Instead we will take the path on the west side of the large quarry that leads to the world's End to Minera Road.
After visiting the trig point on Esclusam Mountain, we will drop down onto the Fron Deg path over Minera Mountain.
At Fron Deg we will head norhward on a path that leads eventually to New Brighton and a path into the Minera Lead Mines Country Park.
Wednesday 30th August 2023*.
A Stamford Bridge, Plemstall, Little Barrow and Great Barrow Round.
Postponed until 29th November 2023.
New Walk.
Melin-y-Wig and Derwen.
Distance: 8 miles. Climb: 975'.
Start: Boncyn Foel-bach Forest Car Park Grid ref: SJ055520. This is on the B5105 Ruthin to Clawdd Newydd road.
Leave Chester at 09-00.
Those planning to walk: Martyn, Ed, Nigel, Fran, .
Those not walking: Mike, Sue and Michel, David S. 
This walk is taken from Lorna Jenner's book "Walks in the Vale of Clwyd".  I have only done this walk once before starting from this car park and that was more than 10 years ago. It is described as being a varied walk through forest, quiet lanes, including one that was used on a pilgrims' route and an attractive riverside path.
 Part of the route, particularly sections of the riverside path have in the past been rather boggy (Remembered from it being on walks starting from Melin-y-Wig). The section through the forest can be boggy too. The only other thing I remember about this walk is that the final section involves climbing out of the valley up to the car park - not the most ideal way to end a walk.  We may have to dip our boots in disinfectant as we go through th grounds of a chicken farm.

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